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Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 8:42 am
by TroutSlayer
Expecting my new Frontier in a month or two. I declined the dealers $6.00 electronic magic box he wanted to sell me for $800.00. What is the preferred undercoating for members vehicles here?

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2017 12:51 pm
by Drizit
Krown every year
Anything that's a permanent life time one is ether bs, the "life time" is about 3-5 years (before you are supposed trade it in) or it will crack and trap moisture and cause it to rot more.

A liquid oil like krown doesn't do that, and provided you start within 6 months of buying the car and keep it up every year they will also offer a lifetime anti corrosion warranty.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:55 am
by Adam
Krown.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 9:27 pm
by the x kid
Do it.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:02 pm
by Miner
Krown, Rust Check, etc. Never a "no drip" product, it needs to flow and drip to cover and work.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:18 am
by Duanegerous
Be careful about doing the doors. I did a mine at Pro-oil this year because of a good price through groupon and the spray messed up my rubber door gaskets/seals. I am pretty sure that the Krown product is safe form that problem. The previous owner used Krown and the gaskets were fine when I bought the truck a couple years ago.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:50 am
by Bow_Tied
Krown is great but a total b*tch to wash off and it oozes out for months - you need a wash mit to remove it that you wouldn't want to use on the rest of the car.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:08 pm
by Adam
Bow_Tied wrote:Krown is great but a total b*tch to wash off and it oozes out for months - you need a wash mit to remove it that you wouldn't want to use on the rest of the car.
Still better than dealing with rust though...My X was done by the PO and it is very clean other than a few spots where rocks have damaged the paint.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:31 pm
by Bow_Tied
Agreed. Just the pita factor. If I was buying a new car that I knew I'd trade back in within 5 years I wouldn't undercoat just for that reason though, so annoying... maybe it's because it's so visible on a white vehicle.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:10 am
by Adam
Oh I know all about that since mine is white, haha. I usually just use some of this to remove it and it works well:

http://www.stonercarcare.com/products/e ... toraerosol

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:27 am
by PhullD
The service manager recommended Krown to me lol! I was forced to have the "magic box" to keep my rust warranty, even though that tech has been totally debunked on cars and trucks (apparently works on boats though). I had a door replaced under the rust warranty so not complaining.

DO NOT wash off the Krown underneath, only where there is a nice paint finish. They don't always tell you that. Especially in the winter! I sprayed my leaf packs and rear frame with a pressure washer the first winter I oil sprayed the X. It removed enough of the residue to start some rusting.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:08 am
by Adam
After a few winters, you won't be able to just pressure wash it off lol.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:17 pm
by Drizit
Lol seriously? You had to take the magic box installed by the dealer or the factory corrosion warranty doesn't apply? I call bs there, and I'm betting Nissan would be a bit miffed to know a dealer is saying that an over priced box proven to not work on cars is doing a better job than all the work they did galvanizing the body.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:55 pm
by PhullD
Drizit wrote:Lol seriously? You had to take the magic box installed by the dealer or the factory corrosion warranty doesn't apply? I call bs there, and I'm betting Nissan would be a bit miffed to know a dealer is saying that an over priced box proven to not work on cars is doing a better job than all the work they did galvanizing the body.
Yep. The extended warranty is third party, and it involves accepting the box or they can void it. Most extended warranties are like this, no idea why they adapted this box. They know most people won't/can't afford to lawyer up too. It just sits on my fuse panel box in the engine bay and is pretty much out of my way.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:31 pm
by Drizit
Lol well as long as they don't try and change $600 for the box like chrysler. I suspect if the box fails they will blame that for the rust and say it's your fault for not fixing the box in a timely manner.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:22 am
by TroutSlayer
My Nissan dealer tried to charge me $800.00 for that 2 dollar, made in China, piece of crap.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:51 am
by Drizit
Nice.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:59 am
by Adam
My dad actually believes it works. Lmao. I pulled one off a Frontier at the junkyard and it was all rusted (the truck)...


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Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:39 pm
by Drizit
Adam wrote:My dad actually believes it works. Lmao. I pulled one off a Frontier at the junkyard and it was all rusted (the truck)...


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Would be even funnier if it was the box that was rusted.

Re: Should I undercoat?

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:13 pm
by Nd4SpdSe
Drizit wrote:
Adam wrote:My dad actually believes it works. Lmao. I pulled one off a Frontier at the junkyard and it was all rusted (the truck)...


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Would be even funnier if it was the box that was rusted.
Buddy worked at a Mazda dealership in Whitby area. It actually rusted around the mounting points for the box